DOS Trailer #2

I just watched it! And I don't even know what to make of it. I don't understand most of what's going on, but all I do understand is that they are never thrown in prison, because apparently Thranduil lets them go? And Leggy and Tauriel have a thing, which is just so wrong for some many reasons. Why the dwarves seem to be attacked by Smaug and why Thorin is jumping off a ledge to escape dragon fire is beyond me. And apparently Smaug is blind. But what I do like is Luke Evans as Bard and just the overall feel of the trailer. I don't get as much of a nonsense kind of feeling that I got with the last trailer, this one feels like there's more of a story to the film, though how many stories crammed into one? I don't know. I'm genuinely more excited to see this now, just as it being a stand alone film.

But back to the issues...
On Thrandy letting them "go," I think it's just a misleading cut of the trailer. In the boat, the dwarves are stripped down to their underclothes, so I think they just got out of the barrels, and the line "how do we know he won't betray us" is directed towards Bard in reference to Thranduil, because in the last vlog we see that it is Bard who finds them after they climb out of the barrels. Really poorly done on the editor's part in my opinion.
The weird green hue in Erebor makes me feel like the place is radioactive. I guess I never really thought that the green stone was ever a good idea. And I'm especially sure of that now!
Leggy and Tauriel. Oi. Not smart for PJ to do. You've taken away the most eligible Fellowship member and have crushed the dreams of his doters. I can see this being the reason Legolas leaves for Rivendell; rejected by Tauriel, so what the hell? Yeah he'll go because he has nothing else now holding him back.
And finally, what are the thoughts here on Smaug's voice? I think the weird gravely noises ruin Cummberbatch's naturally deep dark voice.

oh bollocks.

best thing. Cumberbums fantastic voice. worst thing. everything else.  

just watched a second time. Its truly horrible. theres a sick making romance between Tauriel and Legolas. The Eye of Sauron is back, just to hammer home, 'this is Sauron folks'. The cgi is crap, its confusing and weird. Its probably all made up dialogue, from what I heard its trite rubbish. bad bad bad.  

Just watched the first trailer again. This one is the same exact scenes almost but different parts.

So it turns out that the Legolas/Tauriel romance is happening after all. Poor Kili (unless it was Fili).

Tinuviel wrote:Just watched the first trailer again. This one is the same exact scenes almost but different parts.

There's a fair amount of new material in here. But all movies have overlap between their various trailers.

I'll second what Mrs Figg said about Cumberbatch's voice though. And honestly I'm not ready to write off the whole film yet. Yeah, it will have nothing to do with the book, but it might still be fun on its own terms. Might. :/

Miscellaneous observations:

- The editors of the trailer are very tricksy, indeed.  They make it sound like Thorin is telling Thrandypants who they are, but they're the cutting between dialogue in Mirkwood and dialogue in Lake-town.

- The Necromancer has a full-fledged orc army in Dol Guldur.  We already knew from comments that there would be a big battle at Dol Guldur, but it appears that the battle will likely be full TTT/ROTK style.  The only question remaining is if it will happen late in DOS or early in TABA.

- As expected, they are undoing Thorin's inserted character development from the end of AUJ in order to continue the whole "doubting Bilbo" plot line.  This is hardly the first time that PJ and co have introduced inconsistencies because they change something and then change back closer to the book, but it's still frustrating.

- Smaug is clearly going to die in DOS as we have scenes of the destruction of Lake-town and half the trailer is clearly building up to that confrontation.

one small consolation, they seem to be making Thandypants a sympathetic hero figure, a kind of wise Elrond type willing to help them/give 'paternal' advice to Tauriel.

One more thought before I have to head out. I really like the Bilbo scenes in this trailer, especially the ones with Smaug at the beginning and end, and his exchange with Gandalf. It gives me hope for Martin Freeman's performance, which was already one of the better parts of AUJ (despite his trademark befuddlement).

Also, I think I saw elves fighting spiders, so I wonder if they're the ones who rescue the dwarves or if the spiders come back again later.

Mrs Figg wrote:one small consolation, they seem to be making Thandypants a sympathetic hero figure, a kind of wise Elrond type willing to help them/give 'paternal' advice to Tauriel.

To be honest, his scene with Tauriel reminded me more of Elrond telling Aragorn to break up with Arwen than anything else.

I am curious to see how the relationship between the elves and dwarves play out though, since it's supposed to be adversarial.

I think Thranduil might be tricksy, saying he'll help them, but really just following them so he can take the gold himself. That, or trying to get information out of them. I don't think he'll be as receptive as Elrond, I mean he better not be, because he's not supposed to! I think the whole reason Thorin has an issue with elves revolves around the Mirkwood elves not helping them out. So maybe Thrandy is putting on a nice front, but then Thorin acts grumpy, pisses him off, and he throws them all in the dungeon. Whatever way you look at it, I don't see Bilbo helping them escape.

"There is no hope."
"Do not give him hope when there is none."

Gotta love that from the writers #easteregg

Honestly I didn't mind most of the trailer. I took it for what it was. A continuation of AUJ. the only thing I completely despised was Tauriel and her poor line delivery. God her acting sucks in this film from what I have seen so far. Every line I have heard her deliver sounds awful.

I actually liked Cumberbatches voice as Smaug. I never figured it would be natural and left unaltered, so I really think its pretty cool.

I was a bit disappointed by the amount of reused scenes from trailer 1 and 2 with only differing dialogue. Many of the scenes are the same just cut a bit differently with additional dialogue over them. we did however get a brief glimpse of Beorn in bear form, Sauron will still be a great flaming eyeball apparently, and why the hell does he have an army of orcs in DolGuldur? so much for laying low to build up his poser I guess.

Jackson has no idea of when to hold back does he?  

tauriel's hair is impractically long for someone who does so much fighting

Well that is easy to sum as an adaptation of TH- absolutely fucking disgraceful  

Stupendous? I thought it was Smaug the magnificent?

Everything just looks so fake.

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Well that is easy to sum as an adaptation of TH- absolutely fucking disgraceful  

I've honestly given up all hope of there being an adaptation of the Hobbit that resembles anything of Tolkien in there.  

  oh boy what a downer this trailer is. sux bad.

How can you say that??! PJ digs Tolkien

looks like it might be a better FILM than the other one though

Tinuviel wrote:looks like it might be a better FILM than the other one though

Yeah, I'm with Tin here. AUJ already demonstrated that all hope of a faithful adaptation was lost (though it was fairly evident already ). I'm still hoping this will be a fun adventure flick.

Also, it appears that the Necromancer is already a disembodied flaming eyeball, which raises the question of how he moves from Dol Guldur to Mordor in time for LOTR?

Spoiler:

It has Orlando in, SO YES!