Favorite Parts

Ooh Kafria that makes me want to go read that whole section again.

This is probably weird, but 'Three is Company' is one of my favourite chapters in the book, partly the mood and descriptions of Tolkien writing, partly the speech with Gildor, and partly the slowly developing mystery of the black riders, something about this just resonated with me the first time I read the book, it sounds corny but there was a quaint but immerse atmosphere that drew me in. There wasn't really alot that corresponded to this chapter in the film, so it was the first opportunity I really had to picture my own imagery.

malickfan wrote:This is probably weird, but 'Three is Company' is one of my favourite chapters in the book, partly the mood and descriptions of Tolkien writing, partly the speech with Gildor, and partly the slowly developing mystery of the black riders, something about this just resonated with me the first time I read the book, it sounds corny but there was a quaint but immerse atmosphere that drew me in. There wasn't really alot that corresponded to this chapter in the film, so it was the first opportunity I really had to picture my own imagery.

I don't think it's weird at all, I feel exactly the same way about that chapter About the entire first book actually (book 1 of FotR that is). What you mentioned, and the Old Forest, Bombadil, Bree, Strider, Many Meetings - there's so much to love there

yep thats my favorite part of all the 3 books. from Gildor and the Elves to Farmer Maggot to Bree, I love that bit.

It's the first time you leave the comfort of the hobbit holes, and the perils of the Wide World begin to intrude, yet still in the comforting safety of the Shire. I thought it was very cool that Elves would spend time in the Shire (even if in passing), yet most hobbits never even knew they were there.

Pettytyrant101 wrote:Aragorn banned himself from entering the Shire when he became King (I always thought that an odd decision).

Not odd at all. He banned all Big People, and set the example by not even allowing himself in. It wasn't a decision; it was following the rule. I thought it was very Kingly.
(Hmm...is 'King' always capitalized? Never noticed that before.)

I really enjoy Book 1 too. The Shire is such a wonderful setting, and Tolkien's low-level worldbuilding is just as good as his large-scale histories. He conveys the feeling of camping and hiking in the woods perfectly. It's pretty remarkable just how effectively he's able to convey the sense of home and value in the Shire too, considering that few readers even in the '50s shared Tolkien's nostalgia for the late Victorian period, and how undeveloped the Shire is in The Hobbit. But he does such a great, vivid job with it that in the space of just two or three chapters, it becomes many people's favorite setting in the whole book.

Indeed, I loved that part of the story. It stands out as the first of the many main departures from Tolkien: that he had Frodo and Sam travel alone from Bag End.

I also loved the seemingly sentient fox's observations concerning the hobbits. Intelligent animals are one of the best traditions in English literature!

(Not to bring the beloved Bakshi Dub into all discussions here, but a passage concerning Gildor was read by Gandalf out of the Book found in Mazarbul.)


I think that the first part appeals so well to us for the very reason that it is not very developed world-building yet. We are still in a recognizable landscape, and the concerns involved are small and manageable. It is not a war that we want our characters to win, we simply want them to get safely to Crickhollow!

When Gandalf faces the Witch-king at the gates of Minas Tirith. Completely butchered by PJ with giant armored trolls and staff breaking.

I will never forgive him.

bungobaggins wrote: Completely butchered by PJ with giant armored trolls and staff breaking.

I will never forgive him.

Agreed

I dunno Eldo. People still had a feel for the "simpler" life even in the 50's WW2 wasnt that long before, people had to "make do", tighten up on food etc, grow yer own & all that They understood about rebuilding after the bombs blew England to buggery, just like in the Shire at the end of the story when Saruman squirrels himself away. Even more so if you are a country bodkin to begin with ! Theres still one or two of us old farts that love simple pleasures & truly appreciate nature etc. ( thats before you catch us & stick us in old biddies homes ! & I can run pretty fast !)

I liken LOTR films to looking at a beautiful Elven face with a few pimples on the chin. After a bit you just accept the blemishes as part of the charm, and just try to ignore them. The face is still beautiful.

The Hobbit film is just one big ooozing zit.

Fair point about the Scouring there, Azriel.

“PIPPIN: I didn't think it would end this way.
GANDALF: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it.
PIPPIN: What? Gandalf? See what?
GANDALF: White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
PIPPIN: Well, that isn't so bad.
GANDALF: No. No, it isn't.”
― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings

Like this scene as well.

chris63 wrote:“PIPPIN: I didn't think it would end this way.
GANDALF: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it.
PIPPIN: What? Gandalf? See what?
GANDALF: White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
PIPPIN: Well, that isn't so bad.
GANDALF: No. No, it isn't.”
                                                  ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings

Umm...Tolkien didn't write that.  He wrote images that went into that, but he never wrote that scene.  It should be signed

                                                   - Fran Walsh, inspired by The Lord of the Rings.

But it was well done, I'm not sure even Petty has complained about that scene.

“PIPPIN: I didn't think it would end this way.
GANDALF: End? No, the journey doesn't end here. Death is just another path, one that we all must take. The grey rain-curtain of this world rolls back, and all turns to silver glass, and then you see it.
PIPPIN: What? Gandalf? See what?
GANDALF: White shores, and beyond, a far green country under a swift sunrise.
PIPPIN: Well, that isn't so bad.
GANDALF: No. No, it isn't.”
                                                 ― J.R.R. Tolkien, The Lord of the Rings

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Bungo

A good point.

Got to love Lee. Wouldnt like to annoy him mind you

He's pretty wonderful.

I liked Christopher Lee when I first saw him & that was when he played toothy pegs Dracula I like his voice, it sounds soothing & well spoken, you feel you wanna respect him even if you didnt know who he is.

Ayup...

I always get Goosebumps when reading Theodens speech at Minas Tirith. It never fails. Not so much Bernard Hills delivery in the film, but when those Horses start running, I do get a little breathless. Maybe I was a Cavalryman in a past life, LOL. Also, not in LOTR, but from the Silmarillion, Fingons cry. I got goosies just typing...

Then when Fingon heard afar the great trumpet of Turgon his brother, the shadow passed and his heart was uplifted, and he shouted aloud: “Utúlie’n aurë! Aiya Eldalië ar Atanatári, utúlie’n aurë! The day has come! Behold, people of the Eldar and Fathers of Men, the day has come!” And all those who heard his great voice echo in the hills answered crying: “Auta i lómë! The night is passing!”"

Now this, I wanna see on screen. Lets go kill some Orcs...

Since this isn't worth starting a new thread over but it's good to resurrect old threads, I'll post this here.   I just learned that apple computers (and perhaps iphones) have a hidden easter egg.  If I open the terminal and type

>> cat /usr/share/calendar/calendar.lotr

.... I get the following:

/*
* Lord Of The Rings
*
* $FreeBSD: src/usr.bin/calendar/calendars/calendar.lotr,v 1.2 2003/10/09 00:31:48 grog Exp $
*/

#ifndef _calendar_lotr_
#define _calendar_lotr_

01/05 Fellowship enters Moria
01/09 Fellowship reaches Lorien
01/17 Passing of Gandalf
02/07 Fellowship leaves Lorien
02/17 Death of Boromir
02/20 Meriadoc & Pippin meet Treebeard
02/22 Passing of King Elessar
02/24 Ents destroy Isengard
02/26 Aragorn takes the Paths of the Dead
03/05 Frodo & Samwise encounter Shelob
03/08 Deaths of Denethor & Theoden
03/18 Destruction of the Ring
03/29 Flowering of the Mallorn
04/04 Gandalf visits Bilbo
04/17 An unexpected party
04/23 Crowning of King Elessar
05/19 Arwen leaves Lorien to wed King Elessar
06/11 Sauron attacks Osgiliath
06/13 Bilbo returns to Bag End
06/23 Wedding of Elessar & Arwen
07/04 Gandalf imprisoned by Saruman
07/24 The ring comes to Bilbo
07/26 Bilbo rescued from Wargs by Eagles
08/03 Funeral of King Theoden
08/29 Saruman enters the Shire
09/10 Gandalf escapes from Orthanc
09/14 Frodo & Bilbo's birthday
09/15 Black riders enter the Shire
09/18 Frodo and company rescued by Bombadil
09/28 Frodo wounded at Weathertop
10/05 Frodo crosses bridge of Mitheithel
10/16 Boromir reaches Rivendell
10/17 Council of Elrond
10/25 End of War of the Ring
11/16 Bilbo reaches the Lonely Mountain
12/05 Death of Smaug
12/16 Fellowship begins Quest

#endif /* !_calendar_lotr_ */

So hidden in the calendar app are significant dates of the year when significant things occurred in The Hobbit and LotR.   I just have to figure out how to actually display them in the calendar.